04-15-2015 05:25 PM
I'm looking at reviving my CVI support and updating from CVI 2009 to the current one.
To help justify the plunge I'd like to know more about plans for CVI2015:
Background / Context:
I don't mean to be overly negative - CVI does great things for us, but these two complex (and hard to control!) issues really are the two pain points that I'd like to see progress on.
Thanks,
Ian
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04-16-2015 01:04 AM
Hi Ian,
the issue of the size of distribution kits has been raised here and you're invited to support it
So far, unfortunately, the status is still 'New', not even 'Under Consideration'...
04-16-2015 01:09 PM
Thanks, Wolfgang. I have added my voice. (One important issue I mentioned there that I forgot to include here is the feasibility of uploading 74MB when on the road.) I bet it will be a real challenge for NI to tackle this, but I hope there is a solution.
On the other issue: Does anyone have any Windows 10 insights?
Ian
04-17-2015 02:37 PM
Ian.W,
Unfortunately, we cannot make an official statement on Windows 10 support for LabWindows/CVI 2015 at this time. I would encourage you to sign up for our Beta program for LabWindows/CVI 2015. That would allow you to test the distribution size and give direct feedback to the LabWindows/CVI 2015 team.
Regards,
Jacob Speedy
Applications Engineer
National Instruments
04-20-2015 09:10 AM
Ian,
Regarding your Windows 10 question, we have performed testing with pre-released versions of Windows 10 and we do expect our products to work with this operating system. However, we cannot claim official support until our products have been tested with the officially released version of Windows 10.
Regarding your deployment size concern, we did mention this feature incompatibility in our CVI 2013 readme which directed customers to this KB: http://digital.ni.com/public.nsf/websearch/A402AA9C304A33E186257B8E00630D00?OpenDocument
The KB doesn't fully explain why we chose to make this decision but we did think about this feature a good amount and ultimately we had to make some tradeoffs. The key points we considered where:
Hope this helps.
04-21-2015 03:40 PM
Jacob and Jonathan,
Thank you both for your comments and explanation. I'm sure it is challenging to maintain flexibility to cover all the scenarios as well as ensure compatibility. I'll apply for the beta program.
As a side note, I've tested the limits of CVI 2009 on Windows 8.1 (which is not offically supported, I know!). It was interesting in that it *seemed* to work for one hardware-free app, but if I built any distrbution kit it would not properly incorporate the security update to that version of CVI. The result was a defective distribution kit. It really underscores the need for official support for the version of Windows.
One last question: Is there a different support matrix for *target* platforms rather than development? Specifically does footnote 2 in the lifecycle page about no longer supporting Vista ("Versions ... CVI ..shipped after July 1, 2015, will not install or run on ...Windows Vista ...") apply to target systems as well or just development?
Thanks,
Ian
04-22-2015 03:54 PM
Footnote 2 on that page will apply for both deployment and development.
04-23-2015 08:04 AM
Thanks, jspeedz, for the clarification.
05-07-2015 03:30 AM
I have the opposite question (maybe I should start a new thread): is CVI still going to work on old versions of Windows for the foreseeable future ? The reason is that we do all our deployments on Linux, but since the CVI IDE runs only on Windows we run it on old XP virtual machines, which is perfectly adequate for development. I wouldn't want to have to waste my time with newfangled Windows since the only use for it is to run the CVI IDE.
05-07-2015 08:08 AM
I think that the "footnote 2" I mentioned above answers that question (although not what you want to hear):
LabWindows/CVI will drop support for Microsoft Windows XP, Windows Vista, and Windows Server 2003 as of July 1, 2015. Versions of LabWindows/CVI that are shipped after July 1, 2015, will not install or run on Windows XP, Windows Vista, or Windows Server 2003. For detailed information on this change, visit National Instruments Support Life Cycle for Windows XP/Vista/Server 2003